Remember when we used to go from door to door and place magazines that featured ridiculous topics like this, with the public ?
Pete Zahut
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Tight Pants
by pixel intoday is friday.
so let's see something refreshing on the new june 2016 study wt.
tight pants!.
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Pete Zahut
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A fresh start
by FormerlySandL inafter the worst introduction i could ever make on the forum i would like to reintroduce myself and make a fresh start on the forum and hopefully over time i will be able to redeem myself.
i have changed my user name which was over dramatic and ridiculous in the cold light of day but for transparency and to show i am not trying to hide anything i have adapted the original name and it now has a more positive feel.
after reading a lot of posts on this forum i am feeling more optimistic about my future.
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Pete Zahut
Hello FormerlyS&L,
First off I'd like to say that despite the already enormous pressure you're under, I admire the way you continued to hang in there during your the not so friendly introduction you had on this site. I'm glad you gave us another try and understood the suspicious reaction (including mine) that your first post was met with. It speaks volumes about you and how you must have been as an Elder. Thank you for realizing that we are a large group of folks who were once trusting but were deceived in a very big way and are determined not to have it happen again. We are in various stages of repair and growth and some of us have a way to go yet.
It seems to me that you are the very kind of person who should be and elder yet time and time again, the good ones, the honest and caring ones, like you are eaten alive by the political bureaucratic aspect of the position.
As bad as things seem right now, can you imagine how it would be if you'd have given in to the pressure to marry and were now, on top of everything else, having to go through a divorce and possibly have children involved? In my case, it was the gruesome loss of a family member due to the blood issue, that started my journey into the Jehovah's Witness no mans land, that we all have experienced. I'm glad you don't have that to deal with in addition to what you're already experiencing.
No matter how many experiences I hear like yours, it astounds me how horrible these supposedly loving people can be to those who's life situation for one reason or another has become in their view less than the cookie cutter perfect image they expect to see. When they see someone like you having doubts, it scares them to their very core. Their beliefs and faith are on shaky grounds and require constant bolstering. They cannot tolerate seeing any sort of weakness in others and will go to great lengths to punish anyone who reminds them of their own.
Anyway, it seems like you've been able to set the initial panic aside and are thinking more clearly and positively about your next steps. I'm glad to hear you've been able to backpedal a little with the elders and buy yourself a more time. This time next year, you'll have grown and gain strengths you never had. In the meantime, I hope the advice you have been given so far has been helpful and that you'll continue to keep us posted as to your progress.
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BEWARE - More force adding on FB
by JRK inthey are doing it again.. a new group trying to boost membership is adding people without permission.. "ex-jehovah's witnesses aka behind the veil of jw.org" added me this afternoon.
they were bragging about how quickly they grew to over 2000 members.
i quickly exited the group.
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Pete Zahut
Check your groups on FB next time you are on.
So am I missing something... what's the name of Tim Nasson's group ?
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I am leaving the JW's . I am alone and scared. Advice and help needed please
by scared and lonely ini am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.
i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.
i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.
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Pete Zahut
I've got to say, there's a lot about this situation that doesn't add up. Unless you are extremely young, I can't imagine how someone who qualified to be an Elder could be so lost as to what to do. Hopefully you are just being overly dramatic about your situation and things aren't as bleak as you describe.
Assuming this is all true, it seems to me that if in fact you are losing your place of residence and your employment because of a change in your religious belief, you very likely could have a legal case against those who are discriminating against you.
I'd go to the local police and explain your situation and ask them what would happen if your parents told you to leave but you refused to go. It may be that they would do nothing in a case like this and especially so if they know the situation in advance. This could buy you some time to find another place to live.
I'd also look into free legal advice that may be available in your community or one nearby organization that advocates for those being discriminated against and find out what your rights are if an employer fires you because of religious reasons. I'm sure there is a government/labor/ human rights kind of agency in your area that might be interested in knowing what your are going through. You knew enough to set up a gofundme account, it seems to me you'd know that a few well placed Google searches could tell you everything you need to know in terms of human rights and employee rights. Armed with this information, you may be able to go to your employer and show him what he will be up against if he fires you. I'm assuming that up to this point he has been satisfied with your work. It would be highly suspect if he were suddenly claim he wasn't satisfied with it and have it coincide with your leaving the Witnesses. You could also let him know that if need be you'll be informing his customers what he's doing to you.
If any of this is true, it seems like you are allowing this to happen to you as if you are powerless. My goodness, you are virtually letting them run you out of town. These folks only have as much power as you give them. You sound as if you've given your self over to them and are making it easy for them to walk all over you. I'd say no more about your thoughts about the beliefs of Jehovah's Witnesses or discuss anything with them until you have your head together, know your rights and have a plan.
In the end, it sounds as if it is high time you got shaken out of your postage stamp sized JW fueled dream world. If this is a hoax, hope you had fun.
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only 90
by pepperheart inshucks only 90 teaching books trashed last week still there is a new week starting lol
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Pete Zahut
Taking books from the carts makes publishers think they are making placements and doing something worth continuing with.
Not a recommendation because it wouldn't be a kind thing to do, but if these 90 books were rendered useless and then sent to the congregation they came from and identified as having been obtained from their literature cart, it might make a statement but it would also serve to feed their persecution complex and make them feel extra virtuous.
Having their very existence ignored, would be harder for them to take than actual opposition. As far as I can see, people are staying away from these carts, in droves. This literature cart thing might just fizzle out on it's own. Letting time take it's course rather than resorting to these kinds of destructive measures ourselves, keeps us from actually becoming what they believe we already are.
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A Good Decade
by theliberator inif you were really into the organization back in the 80's, you have to admit, that it was the peak of the organization.
it was a time of high energy and excitement.
like any nation, it reaches a peak and then it declines.
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Pete Zahut
I think your view of a particular time period as a JW, depends on where you are in your life and what you've already experienced. With the advent of the JW dot Org Website, JW TV and shortened meetings etc, people of a certain age are feeling the same way today about being a JW as you were back in the 80's when they came out with videos and cassette recordings etc. As it was back in the day all the evidence is there, yet a certain amount of those involved today who are at just the right juncture in their lives, think everything is new and exciting and still think they are on the right track.
To me after living through the 1975 hype, there was a sense in the 80's of "hey....weren't we supposed to be in the "New System" by now....who wants to read all these new books that explain the same old thing....a thing that never happened?
I think back in the 80's, newer or younger ones likely felt the way you described, because they were projecting their own feelings onto the experience, the way we all do.
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Notable changes of the JWs org, in the last five years or so
by glenster ini've been updating the links at my web site and i'm working on the gtjbrooklyn pages now.
what would you say are the several biggest changesin the jws organization/rules in the last five years or so?
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Pete Zahut
Hard to choose the biggest change but apart from the changing doctrines, selling the properties and moving out of Brooklyn, laying off Bethelites, closing Branch offices and getting rid of the Special Pioneers etc was a significant indication of deep problems going on.
As far as them appointing themselves as the Faithful and Discreet Slave. I thought this is how they've viewed themselves since the C.T. Russell days. Didn't this idea come from his wife and she pushed her husband into reluctantly pursuing it?
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How JW ignore the help Felicity Sneesby got from the "World"
by StephaneLaliberte inlately, in the february broadcast program, at the 46 minutes mark, the watchtower provides the story of felicity sneesby.
this report focuses on how, despite her serious illness, she, along with her family, has always placed her faith in jehovah and how happy she is for being part of jehovah’s family.. i am shocked by how this jw’s report completely ignores the help that this family has received from this system of things through the years.
for instance, they slept at the ronald mcdonald house on at least 6 separate occasions and for long periods of time.
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Pete Zahut
To JW's the only reason worldly people or worldly organizations help in these cases is because Jehovah's holy spirit made em' do it. The only reason they exist is because Jehovah is allowing them to, so why not take em' for all their worth?
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Pete Zahut
I'm not sure what this post is about but this is such a nice picture and it reminds me of the best part about being a JW was getting to know everyones kids, having them treat you like their favorite uncle and seeing them grow up.
I hate that these days men can't be near a kid or talk to a woman other than his wife without someone thinking he's up to no good.
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Help finding a video of GB member saying that Jehovah may not really be God's name
by mamacita29 inhi everyone i'm at work and need to show this video to a jw.
i saw it a few weeks ago i think it was geoffry jackson who said that jehovah may or may not be gods real name but we use it anyways.
can someone help me find that video?
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Pete Zahut
Since when is something made acceptable just because a lot of people view it as such?
Celebrating Christmas is widely accepted even by non Christians. Is it reasonable that we accept it? NO !